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  Top Ten Bands/Artists in no order whatsoever

  by Lycurgus in

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  all right folks... the number one most important thing about a person is?

  you guessed it, what kind of music they listen to.

  so list your top ten bands/artists in no particular order.

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  Ohhh, Ohhh... How could I forget Queen!!!

  Brandon
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  JW Spys????

  by 2escaped lifers in

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  forgive a newbie question, but do any "in" jw's lurk in these forums to ferret out potential apostates?

  just curious?.

  brandon

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  We don't care who knows who we are. That's why we put our names out there I guess. It's not Stephanie and Brandon Bartlett though. I'm , uh Sheena and he's uh, George . That's it. George and Sheena ....Smith. Yeah, that's us. And we're not from Alabama. He meant to say Alaska. Yeah. We have a pet polar bear.
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  Top Ten Bands/Artists in no order whatsoever

  by Lycurgus in

  1. social
  2. humour

  all right folks... the number one most important thing about a person is?

  you guessed it, what kind of music they listen to.

  so list your top ten bands/artists in no particular order.

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  2escaped lifers

  Pink Floyd - The Eagles - Led Zeppelin - Jimi Hendrix - Sting - The Police - Styx - Van Halen - Aerosmith - Lynard Skynard

  ahhhhhhh...... Freebird!!!! That should be our exit anthem!

  Brandon
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  Stupidest thing a JW ever told you

  by Nosferatu in

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  what is the stupidest thing a jw ever told you?

  we all know that they say a lot of stupid things, but what really topped the cake?.

  for me, it was an elder telling me i was progressing really well when my meeting attendance was down and my field service hours were slipping.

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  when an elder told me, it's alright, no-one needs to find out.....

  I'm a newbie here too, and I don't know your story yet, but if that means what I think it means... My heart literally aches for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brandon
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  JW Spys????

  by 2escaped lifers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  forgive a newbie question, but do any "in" jw's lurk in these forums to ferret out potential apostates?

  just curious?.

  brandon

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  2escaped lifers

  Greetings all,

  Forgive a newbie question, but do any "IN" JW's lurk in these forums to ferret out potential apostates? Just curious?

  Thanks,

  Brandon
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  Newbie Introduction-or-How to De-Program Yourself in 6,456,129 Easy Steps

  by 2escaped lifers in

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  my wife and i are new to this forum, and really, we're now new to life as well.

  or rather, life is new to us, normal life that is.

  i don't want to turn this into a novel (at least, not yet).

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  WOW!!! Thank you ALL so much for the greetings!!! Much warmer than the Dubs of late.... We have read some of your stories and look forward to reading more. We are still in a transitional phase, and could use all the advice we can get. We have alot of questions now about things we've never really thought we'd have to face. Some of the issues you've already touched on and I know there are alot we're just gonna have to decide for ourselves after alot of soul-searching. Thank you for the support and honest warnings about the up-coming battles with our families that are still in, AND the probable shunning . It's just comforting to know that you all have done it and lived to tell the tale and are so supportive. We are going to have "the talk" with our children this weekend (boys ages 8 1/2 and 10 1/2). They are wanting answers. Our oldest has already given his first talk and they both were sincere in their beliefs. (We were very good about the whole "fom infancy thing"). Now we feel like the parents that have to tell their kids about Santa or the Tooth Fairy. OOPS!! Sorry , we've been lying to you all these years. Gee, thanks mom. Wish us luck!! Did I say "luck"? Well, now I've done it. I'm sure to be DF'd now. Thank you all again.

  to be continued....
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  Unbelievable experiences at assemblies or conventions

  by Dimples in

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  what experience at an assembly or convention caused you to raise your eyebrows in disbelief?.

  one that comes to mind is a 5 year old conducting several bible studies.

  wasn't it hard enough for an adult to get a bible study?

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  I got one fer ya.. My husband was an attendant at an assembly in Huntsville. Our four year old son had to pee. I couldn't find my husband to take him to the bathroom so we went into the women's. The female "attendant" over the restroon said he was too old to come into the women's bathroom and would not let him go.!!!!! I should point out that he was tall for his age but I tried to explain the situation and that he was just 4!!! And not to mention, it being the first day of the convention, we had all had to sit and listen to the Do's and Don'ts for the next 2 days just a few minutes before the break for lunch. INCLUDING parents escort your children to the bathrooms!!!!!!!! I was still "IN" at the time but not stupid enough to think that there was no way that a child molester "couldn't possibly make it past security". I was not ABOUT to let him go into the men's room by himself!!! I was So mad and my son was about to wet himself. I went in search of his father. I found mine instead who (an elder and super over the attendants) offered to take him. I was LIVID. She totally embarrassed me infront of lots of dub women who had like good little girls waited til the break to use the facilities. I got the same response from everyone, " She was just doing what she was told" . But I ask you, What the heck would a 4-year old care about in the ladies room???? He just had to go!! This was just "another brick in the wall". Not the first ,and certainly ,not the last.
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  Newbie Introduction-or-How to De-Program Yourself in 6,456,129 Easy Steps

  by 2escaped lifers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife and i are new to this forum, and really, we're now new to life as well.

  or rather, life is new to us, normal life that is.

  i don't want to turn this into a novel (at least, not yet).

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  Greetings,

  My wife and I are new to this Forum, and really, we're now new to life as well. Or rather, LIFE is new to us, NORMAL life that is. I don't want to turn this into a novel (at least, not yet). So I'll just give a brief synopsis for now, and we can get into details later.

  My wife and I both grew up in the "Truth". We both grew up in "spiritually strong" families that were "pillars of the congregation". During our teen years and our early twenties we were both very active and enjoyed many various "special priviledges" (Translation: extra-curricular slave duties to make you feel even better about yourself and your "spiritual maturity"). When we got married and had our two boys, we were the "perfect" little JW family, always there, always participating, friends from all over, etc., etc. But...

  There's always a "but" in these, isn't there. Anyway, My wife and I both had this nagging little shortcoming that most of the time we successfully hid, both from others and ourselves. But it always had a tendency to rear its ugly head now and then and cause a problem. What was "it"? We both had the ability to....dare I say it?.....(Current JW's close your eyes..)....We both could THINK! Yes, we were cursed with the awful and "sinful" tendency to think and reason logically about things. Not a good ailment to have when you are neck deep in a mind control cult, huh? From our early teens, both of us questioned illogical teachings of the WTS, without ever getting reasonable or straight answers. Usually we would get some "kind counsel and encouragement" about our "bad attitudes", which of course, as loyal "sheep" we gulped down heartily and said "thankyou" for the "correction". We tried our best to hold onto the now stale mantras like "Jehovah will correct things in his due time", "be patient and wait on Jehovah", "Trust His Organization to eventually correct our understanding of that matter", blah, blah, blah... But as the years passed, the doctrines that didn't make sense, the rampant hypocrisy coupled with unbelievable self-righteousness, the politics at every level of authority in the Organization, and personally experiencing the "true brotherly love" that some of these people practiced - all of this started driving us to really examine if we, or rather the Organization, really had "THE TRUTH".

  Of course, many facets of their doctrines, their Bible Chronology, and the history of the development of their current beliefs (which amazingly is right there in their own publications, but of course with the constant deluge of new material, who has time to look back..) can't stand up to a real and thorough logical examination. It has taken us roughly two years to make a complete break. The funny thing is, our families(still in and very active) think we are only "inactive" and are simply still hurting from some bad experiences, and as soon as we "get over it" we'll be back. I don't look forward to the final confrontation with both families. During the last two years, we've had several extremely heated and emotional discussions with them about all of this, and it is really painful, as most of you know already, for both us and them.

  It is also almost mind numbing to be essentially starting over with life itself. My mind spins when I think of all that we missed out on, and all that is still out there to do, believe, learn, enjoy, experience, etc. As most of you can probably tell, we're still in the middle of our journey out of the WTS and making sense of where we are and where we're going. I hope we can not only gain a lot of insight and understanding from this online group, but also to extend our hands in friendship and help others who are going through, or have gone through, this "Twilight Zone" experience.

  Well, I said I wouldn't write a novel, so I had better cut it short here. I'm sure as we continue we'll all get better acquainted.

  I wish you all the best, and look forward to the new friendships that might develop here.

  Best regards,

  Brandon and Stephanie Bartlett
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  Stupidest thing a JW ever told you

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the stupidest thing a jw ever told you?

  we all know that they say a lot of stupid things, but what really topped the cake?.

  for me, it was an elder telling me i was progressing really well when my meeting attendance was down and my field service hours were slipping.

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  to Joy2befree hiya!! Is this an okay place to intro ourselves , or do we have to go to another forum to tell about our exodus (no pun intended)
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  Stupidest thing a JW ever told you

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the stupidest thing a jw ever told you?

  we all know that they say a lot of stupid things, but what really topped the cake?.

  for me, it was an elder telling me i was progressing really well when my meeting attendance was down and my field service hours were slipping.

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  HI. We're new. My husband and I are just dying laughing at some of this stuff!!! We were told all the same things. We both grew up in "the Lie." We've just left. Where do I begin???? There are too many to list.

  The one that stands out in my mind as being the all time stupidest was told to a study that was about to be baptized by the pioneer who studied with him. He had had a "problem" with drugs, etc.(the whole sex, drugs rock-n-roll scene) and she told him that he had opened himself to the demons so, when he was baptized, he should change his name, apply for a new social-security number and move to a new city so that the demons wouldn't find him!!!!!! You think that's stupid?? The dork-wad actually did it!!!!!!

  Keep em' coming!! This is better than cable !!!